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| Former IDF intel chief: Oct. 7 was ‘much deeper’ than an intelligence failure |
| 2025-08-17 |
| [IsraelTimes] In leaked recordings, Aharon Haliva recounts night before Hamas attack, lambasts Netanyahu for not resigning and claims high Gaza death toll ‘required for future generations’ Former IDF intelligence chief Aharon Haliva, in a series of leaked recordings, said that the October 7, 2023, Hamas-led attack did not occur because of intelligence failures or a poor response time the night of the attack, but was the result of “something much deeper, spanning many years, that requires a much deeper correction.” The tapes of Haliva, who resigned from his position as head of the Military Intelligence Directorate last year against the backdrop of October 7, were aired Friday night on Channel 12’s primetime news program. In the recordings, Haliva is heard recounting events from the night before the Hamas attack, explaining why he chose to step down from his post, and speaking on military and policy decisions leading up to and in the wake of the October 7 attack. According to the network, the conversations that were aired took place over the past several months. “The intelligence failure… is not even about people; it’s something much deeper, spanning many years, that requires a much deeper correction,” the former intelligence chief said in the first recording. “It’s not a matter of a personnel fix,” he said, criticizing the “idea that if we replace the chief of staff now, replace some other officials, that everything will just go back to to being fine.” Agree or disagree, he has some interesting thoughts. This bit, for instance: ‘THEY NEED A NAKBA EVERY NOW AND THEN’Turning to the war in Gaza that has been raging since October 2023, namely the high Palestinian death toll, Haliva said: “The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations.” While the recording was not dated by Channel 12, current Hamas-run Gaza health ministry figures put the death toll in the war to at over 60,000. Hamas casualty figures cannot be independently verified and do not differentiate between civilians and combatants. “For everything that happened on October 7, for every person who was killed on October 7, 50 Palestinians must die,” he said. “I’m not speaking out of revenge, I’m speaking out of a message to future generations, there’s nothing to be done,” he charged. “They need a Nakba every now and then to feel the price. There’s no choice, in this disturbed neighborhood.” |
| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #2 You can become "just another Nation among many" by nuking your arab neighbors. Look how far Germany has come. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2025-08-17 14:55 |
| #1 Long past time for Israelis to realize. (a) Peace with Arabs is neither possible, nor desirable. (b) We cannot become "just another Nation among many" (the old Zionist dream) and survive. |
| Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-08-17 02:43 |