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More Palestinians are calling for Hamas to leave power — and the terror group is responding with horrific violence |
2025-08-19 |
Some of the tribes are working with the IDF to drive out Hamas —are any of these people doing the same? Pointing out to patrols where Hamas is hiding or have weapons caches stored? Where hostages can be found? In almost two years since Hamas invaded Israel, have any of these people done anything to aid any of the hostages with food, water, a single word of comfort? [NYPost] More Paleostinians are calling on Hamas![]() to leave power and end the war with Israel after nearly two years of fighting — but the terror group is responding with extreme violence, reportedly executing critics inside the Gazoo ...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with a rusty iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppressionand disproportionate response... Strip, according to grassroots groups. Moumen al-Natour, the co-founder of the We Want to Live movement in Gaza, said opposition against Hamas has grown since the Oct. 7, 2023, terrorist attack that kicked off the war, with Paleostinians rallying to demand an end to the terror group’s nearly 20-year rule. "There used to be some opposition to Hamas, but after the attack and the consequences that followed, more and more people in Gaza despise them," al-Natour told Fox News Digital. Al-Natour, who is also the president of Paleostinian Youth for Development, said the war has completely swayed public opinion against Hamas within Gaza, given that nearly its entire population of two million has been diplaced in the 21 months of fighting. The public outrage against Hamas was made evident during the mass protests in March, where hundreds of Paleostinians erupted into the streets to demand that the terror group end the war. The protests, however, were short-lived after the cease-fire talks collapsed and Israel restarted its war campaign in Gaza, with Hamas rejecting any deal that did not result in permanent peace with the Jewish state. Since then, al-Natour claimed that Hamas has taken extreme action to silence any voice of opposition, with the community organizer forced into hiding to avoid torture and death. "Hamas recently released a video showing members of the al-Qassam Brigades executing people," he told Fox of Hamas’ military wing. "They publicly threatened anyone who speaks out against them, saying they would treat them as enemies," he added. "I’m moving from place to place, hiding because I don’t want to be killed or even paralyzed." Mkhaimer Abusada, a Gazook political analyst based in Cairo, said more Paleostinians are now calling for Hamas to accept a cease-fire deal and include other local groups in negotiating the terms. "Negotiating solely with Hamas doesn’t help," he told Fox. "Hamas people don’t care about death. They think if they die, they go to paradise." Hamas has signaled that it is willing to cede control of the Gaza Strip in exchange for an end to the war that has claimed the lives of more than 60,000 Paleostinians, according to the enclave’s Hamas-controlled Ministry of Health, which does not differentiate between Lions of Islam and civilians. Hamas, however, is not willing to demilitarize until Paleostinian statehood is achieved, a condition long-rejected by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu has said the war will continue until Hamas is eradicated, the Gaza Strip demilitarized, and a new branch of local leaders are put in place to run the enclave, all while under military occupation. |
Posted by:trailing wife |
#4 /s indeed. That’s what I love about this site — y’all think through things that would never occur to me. You’re wandering in my nightmare territory… |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-08-19 19:08 |
#3 Well, I am no expert , myself, on such matters -- but it is my understanding that an internationally recognized nation can , eg, host a contingent of Pakistanis for the purpose of building missiles armed with nuclear warheads. And any country can sign a mutual defense pact with any other willing country ---> then, as with NATO #5, an attack on one is an attack on all. So that the next "terrorist attack" or kidnapping would lead directly to military onslaught against Israel. An independent state would be able to legally base thousands of IRGC's and NK or Cuban mercenaries presumably on the border w Israel. An independent state would be able to legally accept gazillions of $$$$ -- which would inevitably be used for the purpose of tunnel re-building etc etc etc Again, I am aware that I am no expert on these matters. I mean, if Hamas has made a solemn promise to Antony Blinken or to the UN I supppose there'd be nothing to worry about/s. |
Posted by: Tony P. 2025-08-19 17:42 |
#2 Well said, that first bit, Tony. :-) If they have a state, they can sign a mutual "defense" pact As an Iranian satrapy they already have — and have exercised, to the best of their ability — mutual attack with Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and paid Iranian assets in the West Bank, all since 10/8/2023. And before, too, but that doesn’t need to be said. Gaza has had complete home rule since Ariel Sharon pulled the settlers out in 2006, and then Hamas drove out the PA as well as winning that last election in both the West Bank and Gaza — which the PA ignored in the West Bank, where they are still holding on by their fingernails (they would lose even more badly to Hamas now, which is why, despite repeated promises, they have not held an election since). What can the other countries on your list do other than fuss in international fora, which they already do constantly? I’m not up on matters military, but I’m not aware that any of them have expeditionary forces capable of fighting that far away. What else am I missing? |
Posted by: trailing wife 2025-08-19 13:21 |
#1 They've never demanded a permanent peace. They've always said that their own state, with or without a so-called permanent ceasefire, will be the stepping-stone to Israel's final elimination. --- If they have a state, they can sign a mutual "defense" pact with Iran, and/or Venezuela, and/or Qatar, and/or South Africa, and/or Algeria and/or Norway and/or Turkey and/or Pakistan and/or China -- and that will be game , set, match. |
Posted by: Tony P. 2025-08-19 11:28 |